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First we want a binding agreement, but we want a deal which is valid for the whole century, we do not want the Paris agreement with commitments ending in 2030 because the Paris agreement cannot be an agreement that starts in 2020 or 2021 and finishes in 2030, like the Kyoto Protocol, which finishes in 2020.
And those things must be in the operational core part of the agreement, not otherwise. If we have an agreement of that nature, it will be valid, it will be an instrument and then we'll have to refine it over time, if we just say these are the INDCs on the table and in 2030 we convey another conference to say what we are going to do, it is not valid.
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