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I told him first two things; we are all concerned about climate change and the next sentence I said is, we are most concerned about the poorest three billion who had the least to do with this and are going to suffer the worst consequences, the Pope gave me a disarming smile, and then they said, the Holy Father wants to know what he can do about it. So I told him, 'In your speeches if you can please include us people to be better stewards of the planet.'.
This Pope has become a figure like Gandhi, or (President John F.) Kennedy, going beyond their own cultural surroundings. This Pope has gone beyond Catholicism. Of course he's leader of the Catholics, but many accept him as a moral leader, for someone like me -- who had worked on this problem for 40 years and became depressed last 10 years that I see the change happening but no action taken -- we see him as the hope.
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