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The The House managers have said shame and embarrassment is no excuse for lying. Well, the question about lying, that's your decision. But I can tell you, you put yourself in President Clinton position, and you've already had this big moral lapse, as to what you would do. We are -- none of us are perfect. Sure, you say, President Clinton should have thought of all that beforehand. And indeed President Clinton should. Just as Adam and Eve should have. Just as you and you and you and you, and millions of other people who have been caught in similar circumstances should have thought of it before. And I say none of us are perfect.