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Well, it's clear to me that we can't do student debt relief every 10 years or so. And I think about this as someone who needed Pell Grants and low-interest student loans to get through school. I paid mine off, but the situation has changed over the last 35 years, we've seen the price of college education continue to outpace inflation. We've seen bad actors in that student loan debt space, and I'm interested in reform, both reforming the process itself — I'd like to see us make more Pell Grants available — and I'd like to see us hold people accountable in that space so we get the price of college tuition, or technical tuition or community college tuition under control.