Oume:
When it rains and I can't get around much, I don't sleep very well.
Takao Ueda:
What do you do then?
Oume:
Then I just listen to the water flowing over there and imagine that I was water, too. I think of myself just flowing along, and suddenly there I am asleep.
Oume:
When you turn to water, where do you flow to?
Oume:
Well, I flow with the water ... way, way, far away ... and about time I'm thinking I've reached the sea, there I am asleep.
Michiko Ueda:
We hear the sound of the river every night, but I don't feel like that.
Oume:
You're both still young. You've still got to listen to a lot of things. The river's there, and you have to hear it ... but the sound of water's no use to you. It's something for old folks to listen to.
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