I started having, like Oprah has, these ‘aha’ moments. … Everybody’s a celebrity,’ I thought. ‘Oh, my God, they’re gunning for everybody. Everybody is fair game. And then 4-year-olds, too?’ apparently, [Denton’s] pretty darn talented, I’d love to see these guys do a 180 and just do good stuff and just get legit,’’ Hogan said.