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They love each other. You see it. When I worked with them closely in the White House and in Arkansas and after the White House, there is a mutual respect and admiration for certain, but there's also a lot of love, i mean, she -- you know, they hold hands. He just sort of puts his hands on her shoulders and she lights up. And vice versa. They take long walks together. They have long conversations together. It's a very good relationship. How they manage whatever happened or didn't happen is their business and I never ever asked.