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The structure of our party politics now is more like the 19th century than the 20th, we are not going to have a regionally based civil war, the way they did in the 1860s. But it seems naive to expect that the way out of the present situation is going to be with the significant bipartisan cooperation of leadership in the two political parties. ... We can't even get the two political parties to agree to investigate a violent assault on the Capitol building itself.