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I first heard it and was exposed to it because I think at the time the NBA was using it and they referenced Synergy this and Synergy that and it was during a time where it was really fortunate to be a Arizona State where he had a video coordinator, we had an assistant video coordinator and I think we had like seven or eight managers, a video coordinator at the time was into that stuff. He was really into the technology part of the basketball world. A lot of NBA guys, coaches, scouts, they would come through Arizona State and they mentioned it a lot.

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