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Philip Zimbardo: We're interested in things like cooperation and competition. We're interested in group dynamics, how leaders emerge, how rules can come to control people. Uh, we're interested as much in, uh, the phenomena of dictatorships as we are in democracy. But really, what we learned from this, is what people *say* they would do is often a far cry from what they actually do when put in the crucible of human behavior. And that's really what counts: is understanding what people actually do, not what they imagine they would do.

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